Re: [FCP-L] Color listserve?

Bob Sliga is a great colorist. I used to travel to Baltimore and Chicago to utilize his talents. I remember him telling me about this new Final Touch thing and how it just might change things. I look forward to that DVD if Bob is involved (and you too, Steve).

Scott

--- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...> wrote:
>
> I have the world's most experienced Color trainer. And believe it or
> not, I'm not recommending myself!
>
> Bob Sliga often trains folks out in LA. He was a da Vinci colorist for
> 15 years or so before joining the Color team at Apple. I introduced
> him to FinalTouch (which Apple bought and turned into Color) about a
> year before Apple bought them. I believe he did work or at least
> training on it before Apple bought them, and then was brought in with
> the rest of the team. Bob is also one of the featured colorists in
> "The Art and Technique of Color Correction" on Focal Press.
>
> Bob and I are doing a Color training DVD together, so for those who
> can't afford to hire a personal Color trainer, it'll be the next best
> thing. It should be available in a couple of months.
>
> And again, the Color listserve is Colorlist@yahoogroups.com
>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Philip Hodgetts wrote:
>
> >
> > On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:13 AM, scott petersen wrote:
> >
> > > Can anyone recommend a Color listserve?
> >
> > And while we're at it, can anyone recommend someone to do some Color
> > training (basic to middling) for a client of mine?
> >
> > LA region, mid San Fernando Valley destination.
> >
> > Philip
> >
> > Philip Hodgetts
> > President, Intelligent Assistance
> > AssistedEditing.com Fast First Cuts, Metadata Worfklows
> > Big Brains for Rent bigbrainsforrent.com
> > HD Survival Handbook 2009-2010
> > The New Now - Grow your business - ProAppsTips.com
> >
> > Personal Blog http://philiphodgetts.com
> > Cell 818 335 3916
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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[FCP-L] Re: Codec Conundrum for Cross Platform Data DVD

--- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@...> wrote:
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> Apple's DVC Pro 50 and HD codec are not available on the PC side
> without extra software (like Raylight).
>
> High bit rate h.264 might be the safest in regards to cross platform viability.
>

Dom: Sorry about that. You're right.

For cross-platform editing I'd go with Kerry's recommendation of DV and HDV if it'll fit on the data DVD; otherwise I'll second your reco for H.264 if file size is the priority.

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Re: [FCP-L] Re: Codec Conundrum for Cross Platform Data DVD

Looking at the amount of video that you need to provide, I think that the
closest you will get is DV for the SD material and HDV for the HD.

According to my calculations we're talking about a total of 40 minutes of
HD and 6 minutes of SD. Even DV and HDV may be too large for that much
material.

Using Martin Baker's Videospace widget, we see that 40 minutes of 1080i as
HDV requires almost 7.5 GB. 6 minutes of DV is 1.27 GB. So you have a total
of almost 9 gigs. (How much data can you actually store on a DVD9?)

The bit rates for DVCPro 50 and DVCPro HD will consume 2 and 4 times as much
space respectively. And even ProRes Proxy only save a little bit of space
from DVCPro 50.

I can't comment on the JPG codecs since I never use them, but I would think
that any computer editing system would be able to work with DV and HDV
files.

Kerry
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:15 AM, MarkB <eatapc@me.com> wrote:

>
>
> For SD, I really like DVCPro50 -- as opposed to DV50 -- because of the
> 4:2:2 color space. For HD, the DVCPro HD codec is very efficient and easy to
> edit with. I also think Apple ProRes is a good choice. Mac + Windows codec
> (or links to download them) can be supplied on your data DVD.
>
> -- Mark
>
>
> --- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com <FinalCutPro-L%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Rick <a_pmb_fan@...> wrote:
> >
> > Photo Jpeg at 99% will give you decent file sizes and good quality.
> h.264, while it's not an editing codec all of the apps can work with it.
> >
> > Avid and Premiere pro will read DVCProHD files, but Vegas will need a
> $100 raylight decoder to do it. For the SD stuff, just do DV50, not 25.
> >
> > Rick Emery
> > www.rickemery.com
> >
> >
>
>
>

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[FCP-L] Re:Color listserve?

Here's another great group of people:

http://coloruser.net/forums

Coloruser.net also has a facility to share color grades:

http://coloruser.net/grades

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Re: [FCP-L] Re: Codec Conundrum for Cross Platform Data DVD

Apple's DVC Pro 50 and HD codec are not available on the PC side
without extra software (like Raylight).

High bit rate h.264 might be the safest in regards to cross platform viability.

Dom Q. Silverio

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:15 AM, MarkB <eatapc@me.com> wrote:
> For SD, I really like DVCPro50 -- as opposed to DV50 -- because of the 4:2:2 color space. For HD, the DVCPro HD codec is very efficient and easy to edit with. I also think Apple ProRes is a good choice. Mac + Windows codec (or links to download them) can be supplied on your data DVD.
>
> -- Mark
>
> --- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Rick <a_pmb_fan@...> wrote:
>>
>> Photo Jpeg at 99% will give you decent file sizes and good quality. h.264, while it's not an editing codec all of the apps can work with it.
>>
>> Avid and Premiere pro will read DVCProHD files, but Vegas will need a $100 raylight decoder to do it. For the SD stuff, just do DV50, not 25.
>>
>>  Rick Emery
>> www.rickemery.com
>>
>>
>
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[FCP-L] Re: Codec Conundrum for Cross Platform Data DVD

For SD, I really like DVCPro50 -- as opposed to DV50 -- because of the 4:2:2 color space. For HD, the DVCPro HD codec is very efficient and easy to edit with. I also think Apple ProRes is a good choice. Mac + Windows codec (or links to download them) can be supplied on your data DVD.

-- Mark

--- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Rick <a_pmb_fan@...> wrote:
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> Photo Jpeg at 99% will give you decent file sizes and good quality. h.264, while it's not an editing codec all of the apps can work with it.
>
> Avid and Premiere pro will read DVCProHD files, but Vegas will need a $100 raylight decoder to do it. For the SD stuff, just do DV50, not 25.
>
> Rick Emery
> www.rickemery.com
>
>

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Re: [FCP-L] Re: Codec Conundrum for Cross Platform Data DVD

I've been delivering videos for a project in PhotoJPEG. At 100% a 4 min video was around 8GBs. At 98% they are about 1.5GBs. These are progressive movies though.

Rick Emery
www.rickemery.com

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From: Erik Hansen <eahansen@gmail.com>
To: FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 1:14:47 AM
Subject: Re: [FCP-L] Re: Codec Conundrum for Cross Platform Data DVD

PhotoJPEG at 95%+ becomes RGB and triples/quadruples the filesize. At
that "quality" it can be a hog to edit, due to it's bandwidth needs.
Be aware that it cannot contain field-based video either.

- Erik
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