Sunday, October 11, 2009

Re: [FCP-L] Raid Died - Reconstruct Sequences

Robin, you've got that all wrong.
so wrong, in fact i suspect there could be a language problem here?

simply redigitising from an original timeline, FCP WILL want to
recapture the entire clip.
this has always been the case.

other than EDLs, the only way to restrict the capture to what is used
in the timeline (with or without handles) is by using the Media Manager.

Media Manager WILL (generally) trim an offline sequence.
however, occasionally this function is broken.

from memory, it has worked more often than not,
but as i work on long-form projects,
it could be that my needs have synched with the working periods.


nick


On 12/10/2009, at 5:00 PM, Robin S. Kurz wrote:

> Redigitizing *from the timeline* should definitely NOT require
> redigitizing the entire source material, but rather allow you to
> merely recapture only what was used with the addition of handles of
> choice. The Media Manager is of no use in this case, since it's
> intended for ONLINE material only.
>
> good luck
> RK
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Re: [FCP-L] Raid Died - Reconstruct Sequences

Redigitizing *from the timeline* should definitely NOT require
redigitizing the entire source material, but rather allow you to
merely recapture only what was used with the addition of handles of
choice. The Media Manager is of no use in this case, since it's
intended for ONLINE material only.

good luck
RK

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Re: [FCP-L] Raid Died - Reconstruct Sequences

 



On 10/11/09, at 10/11/09, Philip Hodgetts wrote:
>
> I'm not aware of how that might work, nor could Greg (partner/coding
> genius for our XML-based software) work out how to make it happen.
>
>

Philip, It seems Nick might have a solution. The XML thing worked
for me way back when on what exactly I can't remember. It was
something like doing "find and replace" on the text file. Maybe it
was as simple as a reel name change. I thought if I could somehow
replace the old 'long' clip with the newly digitized 'short' clip in
the XML and keep the T/C the same. The effects data might transfer.

I know I'm probably asking for a lot. It would probably take more
time to edit the XML if it were possible, than to just redo all the
effects.

Thanks for your input and good to be back. You guys/gals are the best!

Peter Sassi
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Re: [FCP-L] Raid Died - Reconstruct Sequences

 

Nick,

WIll give it a try tomorrow. It was pretty hectic and the editor
kind of gave up after a few hours.

Thanks for your help!

Peter Sassi
www.StoryTellersWeb.com
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On 10/11/09, at 10/11/09, Nick Meyers wrote:

> actually the Media Manager should work.
>
> at times in the past, it has not been able to trim offline media,
> from memory, this happened twice in point zero releases,
> but was fixed both times,
> and in fact it works now in FCP 7.0
>
> the problem as far as i can see is that the OP is NOT using the Media
> Manager.
>
> Peter, select the sequence in the browser,
> open Media manager.
>
> use "Create Offline" mode
> Delete Unused
> add handles to taste
> base media file names on: Clip Names (my recommendation for "create
> offline", makes it easier if subclips were used in the edit)
>
> make sure everything with the word "included" is un-ticked.
>
> it should work.
>
> nick
>
> On 12/10/2009, at 10:53 AM, Philip Hodgetts wrote:
>
> >
> > On Oct 11, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Peter Sassi wrote:
> >
> > > Haven't been here in a long time. I have just been lurking
> > > occasionally.
> > >
> > > Anyhow, I tried to help a friend rebuild some lost projects. The
> > > sequences are cut from several very long clips; entire tapes were
> > > digitized. The clips have moves on them. Redigitizing from the
> > > sequences seems to want to redigitize the entire tape as was done
> > > originally. We tried to "make clip independent" but when it is
> > > offline that is greyed out.
> >
> > Yes, you can only media manager online media. When media is
> "offline"
> > the full original clips will be used.
> > >
> > > I exported the sequence as an EDL, reimported it and it worked
> fine
> > > to redigitize. Problem there's hours of sequences and there are
> > > moves in and out done in FCP. The goal is to not have to do that.
> > > The only way is to redig from sequences. Problem seems to be as I
> > > said before, we have to digitize an hour tape for a 20sec clip.
> >
> > Can the Media Management be done on the original system, with the
> > offline media available? If the Sequence clips had been made
> > "Independent" then the media management done with available media it
> > would work as you expect.
> > >
> > > Question is can we apply xml data in some way to only digitize the
> > > 20sec needed AND keep the moves intact?
> >
> > I'm not aware of how that might work, nor could Greg (partner/coding
> > genius for our XML-based software) work out how to make it happen.
> >
> > Sorry, hopefully someone else has a better answer Bouke are you
> > awake? :)
> >
> > Philip Hodgetts
> > President, Intelligent Assistance
> > AssistedEditing.com Fast First Cuts, Metadata Worfklows
> > Big Brains for Rent bigbrainsforrent.com
> > HD Survival Handbook 2009-2010
> > The New Now - Grow your business - ProAppsTips.com
> >
> > Personal Blog http://philiphodgetts.com
> > Cell 818 335 3916
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
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Re: [FCP-L] Raid Died - Reconstruct Sequences

 

actually the Media Manager should work.

at times in the past, it has not been able to trim offline media,
from memory, this happened twice in point zero releases,
but was fixed both times,
and in fact it works now in FCP 7.0

the problem as far as i can see is that the OP is NOT using the Media
Manager.

Peter, select the sequence in the browser,
open Media manager.

use "Create Offline" mode
Delete Unused
add handles to taste
base media file names on: Clip Names (my recommendation for "create
offline", makes it easier if subclips were used in the edit)

make sure everything with the word "included" is un-ticked.

it should work.

nick

On 12/10/2009, at 10:53 AM, Philip Hodgetts wrote:

>
> On Oct 11, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Peter Sassi wrote:
>
> > Haven't been here in a long time. I have just been lurking
> > occasionally.
> >
> > Anyhow, I tried to help a friend rebuild some lost projects. The
> > sequences are cut from several very long clips; entire tapes were
> > digitized. The clips have moves on them. Redigitizing from the
> > sequences seems to want to redigitize the entire tape as was done
> > originally. We tried to "make clip independent" but when it is
> > offline that is greyed out.
>
> Yes, you can only media manager online media. When media is "offline"
> the full original clips will be used.
> >
> > I exported the sequence as an EDL, reimported it and it worked fine
> > to redigitize. Problem there's hours of sequences and there are
> > moves in and out done in FCP. The goal is to not have to do that.
> > The only way is to redig from sequences. Problem seems to be as I
> > said before, we have to digitize an hour tape for a 20sec clip.
>
> Can the Media Management be done on the original system, with the
> offline media available? If the Sequence clips had been made
> "Independent" then the media management done with available media it
> would work as you expect.
> >
> > Question is can we apply xml data in some way to only digitize the
> > 20sec needed AND keep the moves intact?
>
> I'm not aware of how that might work, nor could Greg (partner/coding
> genius for our XML-based software) work out how to make it happen.
>
> Sorry, hopefully someone else has a better answer Bouke are you
> awake? :)
>
> Philip Hodgetts
> President, Intelligent Assistance
> AssistedEditing.com Fast First Cuts, Metadata Worfklows
> Big Brains for Rent bigbrainsforrent.com
> HD Survival Handbook 2009-2010
> The New Now - Grow your business - ProAppsTips.com
>
> Personal Blog http://philiphodgetts.com
> Cell 818 335 3916
>
>
>

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Re: [FCP-L] Raid Died - Reconstruct Sequences

 


On Oct 11, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Peter Sassi wrote:

> Haven't been here in a long time. I have just been lurking
> occasionally.
>
> Anyhow, I tried to help a friend rebuild some lost projects. The
> sequences are cut from several very long clips; entire tapes were
> digitized. The clips have moves on them. Redigitizing from the
> sequences seems to want to redigitize the entire tape as was done
> originally. We tried to "make clip independent" but when it is
> offline that is greyed out.

Yes, you can only media manager online media. When media is "offline"
the full original clips will be used.
>
> I exported the sequence as an EDL, reimported it and it worked fine
> to redigitize. Problem there's hours of sequences and there are
> moves in and out done in FCP. The goal is to not have to do that.
> The only way is to redig from sequences. Problem seems to be as I
> said before, we have to digitize an hour tape for a 20sec clip.

Can the Media Management be done on the original system, with the
offline media available? If the Sequence clips had been made
"Independent" then the media management done with available media it
would work as you expect.
>
> Question is can we apply xml data in some way to only digitize the
> 20sec needed AND keep the moves intact?

I'm not aware of how that might work, nor could Greg (partner/coding
genius for our XML-based software) work out how to make it happen.

Sorry, hopefully someone else has a better answer Bouke are you
awake? :)

Philip Hodgetts
President, Intelligent Assistance
AssistedEditing.com Fast First Cuts, Metadata Worfklows
Big Brains for Rent bigbrainsforrent.com
HD Survival Handbook 2009-2010
The New Now - Grow your business - ProAppsTips.com

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[FCP-L] Raid Died - Reconstruct Sequences

 

Haven't been here in a long time. I have just been lurking
occasionally.

Anyhow, I tried to help a friend rebuild some lost projects. The
sequences are cut from several very long clips; entire tapes were
digitized. The clips have moves on them. Redigitizing from the
sequences seems to want to redigitize the entire tape as was done
originally. We tried to "make clip independent" but when it is
offline that is greyed out.

I exported the sequence as an EDL, reimported it and it worked fine
to redigitize. Problem there's hours of sequences and there are
moves in and out done in FCP. The goal is to not have to do that.
The only way is to redig from sequences. Problem seems to be as I
said before, we have to digitize an hour tape for a 20sec clip.

Question is can we apply xml data in some way to only digitize the
20sec needed AND keep the moves intact?

Thanks in advance,

Peter Sassi
www.StoryTellersWeb.com
Peter@StoryTellersWeb.com
561-843-8113

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[FCP-L] Re: file names

Mac illegal characters or PC illegal? Mac's much more forgiving then PC...

--- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Darrin Cardani <darrin.cardani@...> wrote:
>
> Mel wrote:
> > Soundtrack Pro will refuse to import an OMF file that was exported
> > from FCP if any of the original AIFF files in the FCP timeline have
> > illegal characters in the filename. Again, STP doesn't even give you
> > an error, it just sits there, doing nothing until you force quit the
> > app. Of course, I didn't figure this out until about an hour after the
> > audio guy called me up before his mix session to tell me that the OMF
> > I sent him doesn't import.
>
> You've filed a bug about this, right? If not, here's where you should
> do so:
>
> <http://www.apple.com/feedback/soundtrackpro.html>
>
> Darrin
> --
> Darrin Cardani
> darrin.cardani@...
>
>
>
>
>
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