When you export in FCP vs compressor, you can choose to have the file
use your current sequence settings or you can choose to have it re-
compress every frame in the sequence when you export. All of our show
exports go through Captioning and the file is re-embedded with new
captions. The problem we have had in the past if we use previously
captioned flattened show files as elements in a new show, the
captioning can cause a problem when they get redone. The new
captioning won't stick or there is some corruption from using the old
captioned file as an element. So stripping or removing the captioning
before putting them into the new sequence will help save time on the
renders as I can then just use current sequence settings vs. re-
rendering every frame. I'm interested in seeing what FCP 7 offers on
the captioning front, but Apples articles or instructions in the
manual are pretty thin. Since most of our edit stations are still
thumping away on 6.0.6, FCP 7 is still a glimmer in the future. Hope
this makes a little more sense.
Andy Edwards
On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:37 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> By recompress is that a compressor function or internal in FCP. I'm
> mostly on Avid so sometimes my terminology for FCP is off. How do
> you set it to strip HD Captioning since it's in the anc. metadata on
> line 9 in the vertical interval? I'm guessing this might be part of
> the new Captioning functionality in FCP7/Kona 3 I've heard about.
>
> --- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Andy Edwards <aedigitaltv@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > On the HD side of things: Yes, the longer renders come from having
> to
> > recompress all frames to remove the previous captions vs. just
> > exporting a dvcprohd sequence with current settings. It ads an
> > additional 30+ mintues to the render.
> >
> > Sent from my fruit phone.
> >
> > On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:38 PM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Just curious how the presence of captioning SD style makes for
> > > longer renders? Is it that the necessary effect to remove the
> > > captioning is what creates the longer renders. Since SD captioning
> > > is just a line of blips of white on line 21 I don't see why that
> > > requires extra rendering time unless it's the removal process.
> > >
> > > --- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Andy Edwards <aedigitaltv@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the details Kerry. It is all HD. A show I am now
> working
> > > > on uses flattened air masters files for look back elements of
> > > previous
> > > > shows. They come with the captioning that makes for longer
> renders
> > > > when outputting the new master. I have to recompress all
> frames to
> > > > remove the captioning in each episode.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I'll just grab the terrabyte of files and batch export
> them
> > > all
> > > > over the turkey day holiday from fcp.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Andy Edwards
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my fruit phone.
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Kerry Soloway <ksoloway@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > When you say "strip", do you mean "remove"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this an SD or HD program?
> > > > >
> > > > > When I have had to re-edit closed captioned SD programs but
> > > maintain
> > > > > the
> > > > > closed captioning, I found that if I overlay the original
> video
> > > with a
> > > > > bottom crop of 99.5 (which I believe is in %), it will allow
> me to
> > > > > preserve
> > > > > the captioning. The inverse of that would be a top crop of .
> 5 (1/2
> > > > > of 1%),
> > > > > if I wanted to remove it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Consequently, I'm thinking that, you could crop the top 2 or 3
> > > lines
> > > > > of
> > > > > video in Compressor in order to delete the captioning. Of
> course
> > > you
> > > > > are
> > > > > then left with a non-standard size frame. I wouldn't resize to
> > > full
> > > > > height
> > > > > because you will create all sort of unnecessary artifacts. Of
> > > > > course, if you
> > > > > are starting with 486 lines, you could crop 4 lines off of
> the top
> > > > > and 2
> > > > > lines off of the bottom, creating a standard 720 x 480 frame.
> > > And by
> > > > > eliminating even numbers of lines at the top and the bottom,
> you
> > > > > won't be
> > > > > changing the field order.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kerry
> > > > > -------------------
> > > > > Kerry Soloway
> > > > > http://www.NightingaleEditorial.com
> > > > > 201-247-4110
> > > > > ksoloway@
> > > > >
> > > > > Watch "Consuelo Mack/WealthTrack" weekly on PBS. Check your
> local
> > > > > listings.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Andy Edwards <aedigitaltv@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Does any one know if Compressor will strip Closed Captions?
> Or
> > > is the
> > > > >> only way doing re-compress all frames out of FCP.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Andy Edwards
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
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