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Saturday, November 14, 2009
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[FCP-L] Re: Murch "back on Avid" for at least one film...
> switthaus wrote:
> Welcome to the real world, Walter! Most of us bounce between systems
> all the time, we just don't hold a conference about it.
In all fairness, it's LAFCPUG's event. Walter is gracious enough to present and they like having him because he's a good draw. Besides, on most of the recent films, he has been cutting picture on FCP, some audio on Pro Tools and mixing on an ICON.
- Oliver
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[FCP-L] AJA QTtoDPX and FCP don't agree
1080psf 23.98 DL 10bit Log RGB
I capture 4:01 that's 4 seconds and 1 frame from a tape. FCP reports
it as 4:01. QTPro reports it as 4:01. That should be 97 frames. I
run it through AJA QT to DPX and I get 120 frames out. I capture
10:01 from a tape. FCP reports is as 10:01. QTPro reports it as
10:01. That should be 241 frames. I run it through QTtoDPX and get
263 out. WTF? Really, what is going on here? It's like it's
regularly capturing anywhere from 1 to 3 frames extra on the head and
22 to 23 frames extra on the tail. I captured 10 clips last night and
they all followed the pattern. What is going on? And how do I make
it stop? Please, can some point me in the right direction. I've
checked all sorts of settings and can't make it stop doing this crap.
Thank you for the assistance.
Jay
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[FCP-L] Re: Anyone install Perian ?
--- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, "redsall2002" <redsall@...> wrote:
>
> I did. It didn't make it possible to view .flv's in QuickTime but it did enable MPEG Stream Clip to do so. There is supposed to be a perian components file in the QuickTime main library but there is nothing. Perian also seems to have an effect on the icons for flv's turning them into a document icon instead of the little brown film clip icon I have come to know flv's by. Even flv's saved to external drives from other computers show as a document icon when that drive is mounted in my computer. It's just weird. I have removed Perian as per the instructions but the icons are still showing as documents. In my searching the web to solve this issue I have come across numerous blurbs regarding Perian and FCP. Anybody have personal experience with this? Can any one tell my what's going on with the icon changing thing?
>
> MBP, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 10.5.6. FCP 6.0.6
>
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Re: [FCP-L] RE: for thai
generated by someone who hijacked Tim's email.
I sent Tim a note so hopefully he'll rejoin from a secure account soon.
Best,
Jim
FCP-L co-moderator
On 11/14/09 9:52 AM, "Tim McLaughlin" <mcltim@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey friend,
> Hope this letter find you are in the best.
> I have a good choice for the coming Christmas.i got a good website from a
> friend. The site sells electronic products,such as Cell phones,
> Laptops,GPS,TV, LCD,MP3/4/5,motorcycles.I bought a phone having a test..to my
> surprise, the quality is supper good.let alone the price.it is much lower than
> the market price.besides,they are making promotation for the coming
> Christmas.the more you buy you will get more discount and gift.
> Their URL: Freepurchase.net
> Mail:freepurchase2009@yahoo.com.cn
> MSN:freepurchase09@hotmail.com
> Wish you will get the things you desire.
> regards
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[FCP-L] RE: for thai
Hope this letter find you are in the best.
I have a good choice for the coming Christmas.i got a good website from a friend. The site sells electronic products,such as Cell phones, Laptops,GPS,TV, LCD,MP3/4/5,motorcycles.I bought a phone having a test..to my surprise, the quality is supper good.let alone the price.it is much lower than the market price.besides,they are making promotation for the coming Christmas.the more you buy you will get more discount and gift.
Their URL: Freepurchase.net
Mail:freepurchase2009@yahoo.com.cn
MSN:freepurchase09@hotmail.com
Wish you will get the things you desire.
regards
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [FCP-L] Murch "back on Avid" for at least one film...
I'm currently cutting at a shop that 95 % Avid, as part of a new project on FCP so this has been on my mind. I'm trained on Avid (MC version 4.5 I believe - I certainly have a clear memory of version 5 goodies arriving) but have worked primarily on FCP the last 5 years by happenstance and choice when given.
Anyway - I've learned a lot from reading Murch's books and various things his assistants and team post online. His editorial procedures really are wider than any particular edit software - and involve a lot of Filemaker and other structures. I'm sure he'll find something interesting to say in his chat as always, but I suspect somewhere in they he'll say something along the lines of "changing tools keeps you fresh...in many ways, it's great to be home with Avid again, though now I wish I could open multiple sequences as once..."
-Robert
--- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, "mhollis55" <mhollis55@...> wrote:
>
>
> I won't be there, but...
>
> The first nonlinear edit system I learned was the Avid Media Composer. I
> paid big bucks and took classes at Future Media Concepts in NYC. When
> Apple released Final Cut Pro (on System 8, I believe), I started
> noodling around with that system and learned Final Cut.
>
> I then took a job with a Nameless Broadcasting Company as a
> "Perma-Temp." I transitioned to a Grass Valley linear editor and cut
> news, which usually means no fancy effects. But, as I had come out of a
> post-production environment and had effects skills, I was placed in a
> "graphics production area," where we used some pretty antequated
> equipment to work miracles.
>
> Then that company decided to go digital. They bought a whole bunch of
> Grass Valley's Vibrint editors
> <http://www.digitalproducer.com/aHTM/Articles/03_27_00/grass_valley_to_a\
> cquire_vibrint.htm> , which I told one manager was an "M-II decision."
> The Vibrint (now called "NewsEdit") is certainly capable of editing news
> quickly in a fast-paced environment but the version I used could not
> take a hicon and make a key with it and had a really limited software
> DVE. Additionally, this company would have to train each and every one
> of their new hires to edit with the device, as it was not a standard
> editor and the two standards at the time were made by Avid and Apple.
>
> I notice that the Thompson-Grass Valley website
> <http://www.thomsongrassvalley.com/> does not list the NewsEdit in any
> of their offerings today. Last article I found seemed to indicate that
> the company dumped the NewsEdit system on South American broadcasters
> and left them holding the bag (this happens lots to South Americans).
>
> Apple's Final Cut Pro was a standard by virtue of their commitment to
> education. College graduates have had considerable time on Final Cut
> because the hardware and software are sold to educational institutions
> at a heavy discount and a complete setup is much cheaper than Avid's
> solution.
>
> The Nameless Broadcasting Company let go a number of their managers who
> "owned" the decision to buy the Vibrint and decided to standardize on
> Avid solutions. I re-learned the Media Composer (actually the
> Newscutter, which is an MC with a certain amount of goodies disabled)
> and then was told, since I did News Graphics, that I would have to learn
> the Avid DS in order to stay employed by the company (life as a
> "Perma-Temp").
>
> The company brought trainers in and trained everyone up on the Avid DS
> <http://www.avid.com/products/DS/> , which is about as different from
> the Media Composer (and Symphony) as you can get (it cannot even share
> media natively with the other Avid tools). The DS is an editor that can
> do compositing -- or it is a compositing application that can edit. It
> works as if you had Motion and Final Cut completely merged, with no need
> to export any material one to the other -- no "round trop" necessary --
> all the tools for both compositing and editing are built in.
>
> We got training and then we were given a little time to get up and
> running on the Avid DS. The learning curve is a little like climbing
> Mount Everest but if you understand digital compositing and you're a
> very good creative editor, you can get really fast on the Avid DS in
> about six months. I had about three and was a little slow off the mark
> but I had some really good assistance from an outside freelance editor
> the company brought in.
>
> I am presently editing on (gasp!) Adobe's Premiere Pro, but not for the
> aforementioned Nameless Broadcasting Company, which laid me off three
> years ago because they wanted to bring in a team from elsewhere and
> consolidate their staff. The company I am with will transition to Final
> Cut Studio in January or February. I'm buisily learning Motion and
> re-familiarizing myself with Final Cut Pro, which is a lot better
> application under OS X and runs with considerably more stability on a
> dual-quad core Mac Pro with plenty of system RAM. The biggest struggle I
> had with Final Cut before is that every time Apple upgraded Quicktime,
> upgraded the operating system or upgraded Final Cut, something broke.
> Apple's integrated releases seem to be either better timed or more
> considerate of the needs of people who use Final Cut Studio, though
> there is still no 64-bit Quicktime Pro in Snow Leopard (64-bit Quicktime
> is a player only).
>
> For compositing, I'm using Adobe's After Effects, which does a pretty
> good job, but cannot do some of the things I was doing with the Avid DS.
> But, to be fair, I'm using some pretty old software that is working on
> old hardware. I use a Dell XPS 600 with Premiere Pro 1.5 and After
> Effects 6.5. These applications are really not integrated, so a "round
> trip" with these applications is nowhere near as smooth as it is
> presently with Final Cut Studio (and probably is with the CS4 versions
> of Adobe's software).
>
> I am definitely looking forward to getting a Mac Pro in the office.
>
> So, as you can see, I've been editing professionally on a number of
> applications. And if it edits, I can confidently say I can use it.
> Transitioning from one to the other necessitates re-familiarization, but
> that takes about a day or so. But since lots of Final Cut editors don't
> know the Avid, it's probably a lot more scary to them.
>
>
>
>
> --- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Shane Ross <comeback@> wrote:
> >
> > I will too! But I'm more of am opening act.
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > Scent frum my iFone.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Jim Feeley jfeeley@ wrote:
> >
> > > If you care, he'll be talking about that next Weds in LA:
> > >
> > > ====
> > > 9:00PM - 9:50PM - "What's it like going from Avid to FCP and back to
> > > Avid?"
> > > - Walter Murch
> > >
> > > legendary film and sound editor Walter Murch returns to lafcpug to
> > > discuss
> > > "what is it like going from the Avid to FCP and back to the Avid."
> > > Walter
> > > has been editing with Final Cut Pro for several years after having
> > > used the
> > > Avid for several years. And now he is back on the Avid editing a
> > > movie here
> > > in Los Angeles. Mr. Murch will bring along his assistant editors
> Greg
> > > Thompson and Dave Cory for an assistant editor POV. There will be
> > > plenty of
> > > time for questions and discussion.
> > > ====
> > >
> > > More info here:
> > >
> > > http://www.lafcpug.org/user_schedule.html
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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[FCP-L] Re: Murch "back on Avid" for at least one film...
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--- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Jim Feeley <jfeeley@...> wrote:
>
> If you care, he'll be talking about that next Weds in LA:
>
> ====
> 9:00PM - 9:50PM - "What's it like going from Avid to FCP and back to Avid?"
> - Walter Murch
>
> legendary film and sound editor Walter Murch returns to lafcpug to discuss
> "what is it like going from the Avid to FCP and back to the Avid." Walter
> has been editing with Final Cut Pro for several years after having used the
> Avid for several years. And now he is back on the Avid editing a movie here
> in Los Angeles. Mr. Murch will bring along his assistant editors Greg
> Thompson and Dave Cory for an assistant editor POV. There will be plenty of
> time for questions and discussion.
> ====
>
>
> More info here:
>
> http://www.lafcpug.org/user_schedule.html
>
>
> Jim
>
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Re: [FCP-L] Anyone install Perian ?
> I did. It didn't make it possible to view .flv's in QuickTime but
> it did enable MPEG Stream Clip to do so. There is supposed to be a
> perian components file in the QuickTime main library but there is
> nothing. Perian also seems to have an effect on the icons for
> flv's turning them into a document icon instead of the little brown
> film clip icon I have come to know flv's by. Even flv's saved to
> external drives from other computers show as a document icon when
> that drive is mounted in my computer. It's just weird. I have
> removed Perian as per the instructions but the icons are still
> showing as documents. In my searching the web to solve this issue I
> have come across numerous blurbs regarding Perian and FCP. Anybody
> have personal experience with this? Can any one tell my what's
> going on with the icon changing thing?
>
> MBP, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 10.5.6. FCP 6.0.6
If installed correctly, you will have "Perian.component" in /Library/
Quicktime folder, and "Perian" item (Swiss Army Knife Icon) in System
Preferences in "Other" (file in /Library/PreferencePanes/
Perian.prefpane.
.flv's simply play in a Quicktime player like any other movie.
Yes, .flv's do show up with generic icons. So what. Double-clicking
will still open QT Player.
Maybe a future release by the volunteer Perian group <http://
www.perian.org> willl address that issue. The Support area on the
site may provide some suggestions if you're still having problems.
--
Chuck Reti
Detroit MI
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