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--- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Shane Ross <comeback@...> wrote:
>
> Dude...I know. I was trying to be humorous. I guess I forgot the
> (lol).
>
> Just saying that when you work for a long time on one system, then
> move to the other, for the first few days at least, you are mentally
> still in the mindset for the other NLE, so you might instinctually
> press a set of commands for FCP that in Avid do something completely
> different, or the reverse.
>
> But I am opposite to you in that I think that the ability to
> manipulate things on the timeline in FCP is much easier and faster
> than what I can do on an Avid. But then Avid has other strengths that
> make me faster on it too.
>
> I know... I know...
> -shane
>
> On Nov 17, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
>
> > That's because x doesn't mark in to out in an Avid. It's not the
> > Avid's fault that you hit the wrong button. Same with "segment
> > editing." The two systems operate differently. I encounter these same
> > issues going back and forth between Avid and FCP myself, but because
> > my BEGINNING experience has been on the Avid for nearly eighteen
> > years, I wonder why "FCP does it backwards." The two simply work
> > differently, and has been said many times, you can't edit on FCP the
> > same way you edited on Avid. You have to re-think the process for FCP
> > to work. Just as, if you start on FCP, you have to rethink the process
> > for Avid to work.
> >
> > For me, the timeline behaves very strangely in FCP because there are
> > so many states of the timeline to keep track of and so many "micro-
> > touches" to make that slow you down. In this way, having to go into
> > segment mode on Avid is better, because on FCP you can cause so many
> > different functions and behaviors based on touching just a few pixels
> > off from where you really want to touch. On an Avid, if you want to
> > put a keyframe on the last frame of audio, you just click. But in FCP,
> > if you option-click too close to the transition, you select or enable
> > the transition. Or you get a different behavior if you drag the top or
> > bottom of the clip. These are all things you just need to get used to
> > in FCP, just the same as you need to operate the Avid like its meant
> > to be operated. All the things you complain about are things I love -
> > or hate about FCP.
> >
> > Like - you leave your playhead (timline indicator) in FCP at a spot
> > and want to zoom in, but instead you actually zoom in on a clip or
> > transition that you may have selected a while ago. Or worse, you mark
> > an in and an out and hit delete, thinking that you're deleting what
> > you just marked, but actually you delete something that is selected
> > instead.
> >
> > I'm working on FCP right now. In a few minutes, if I get notes back
> > from my client for another project, I'll spin my chair around and edit
> > the revisions for that project on an Avid. It definitely takes some
> > getting used to and there are things that I wish I had from the other
> > system every time I spin around. But you have to use the tools like
> > they're meant to be used.
> >
> > Hitting X on an Avid and cutting something out isn't a bug. It's
> > operator error.
> >
> > On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Shane Ross wrote:
> >
> > > Like wanting to mark IN to OUT, so you press X. BUT WAIT, you are in
> > > AVID, so that CUTS out something that was marked IN and OUT
> > earlier in
> > > the cut.
> > >
> > > Or if you are in Avid and you try to grab a clip over and over, but
> > > you can't, and you remember, "oh yeah, I have to activate Segment
> > > Mode." Or if you are coming from Avid to FCP and you just want to
> > > move your playhead and you move a clip across the timeline and
> > > overwrite something.
> > >
> > > Takes me a few days to get my feet steady when I switch...
> > >
> > > I could open with that...
> > >
> > > -shane
> > >
> > > On Nov 17, 2009, at 2:02 PM, switthaus wrote:
> > >
> > >> My comment was in jest, however I would bet what he talks about has
> > >> been hashed over on these forums many many times...
> > >>
> > >> --- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, "oliverpetersvidy"
> > >> <oliverpeters@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Scott,
> > >>>
> > >>>> switthaus wrote:
> > >>>> Welcome to the real world, Walter! Most of us bounce between
> > >> systems
> > >>>> all the time, we just don't hold a conference about it.
> > >>>
> > >>> In all fairness, it's LAFCPUG's event. Walter is gracious enough
> > >> to present and they like having him because he's a good draw.
> > >> Besides, on most of the recent films, he has been cutting picture
> > on
> > >> FCP, some audio on Pro Tools and mixing on an ICON.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Oliver
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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