Saturday, October 24, 2009

Re: [FCP-L] Best way to Matte White Screen

 

Not entirely... it works if you key back onto a white background and
go with that as the look.

Years ago, I shot interviews (waist up) with people in various
locations with different crews on white seamless backgrounds. The
goal was to create the "Mac vs PC" look. Green or blue keying at the
time resulted in too much clipping and ringing to get a clean, natural
look on white. So we shot them on white and softly keyed the various
shades of white backgrounds out and keyed in a common white
background. If you looked at the mattes, they were horrible with bits
and specks you would never put up with in a normal key. But it
worked. Strict rules: NO white clothing, buttons, silver jewelry,
etc. One clown showed up in a white shirt under his jacket that I
fixed with a holdback matte. Anything near white like eyeballs and
teeth just seemed a little bit shinier that day. ;-)

Of course, this was in the land of SD. I don't think I would try it
in HD. Brett, if you are going to put your subjects on anything but
white, you better start rotoscoping as Shane suggests.

Hope it's a very short piece either way.

Be well...
---
Bob
------
Robert Griffiths
http://www.FireDancer.tv

On Oct 24, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Shane Ross wrote:

> This is darn near impossible. A friend of mine, a keying genius, had
> to try to do this once. Keying white is impossible. Grey? GOOD
> LUCK! Roto is your only possible solution.
>
> Seriously.
>
> -shane
>
> On Oct 24, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Robert Griffiths wrote:
>
>> Brett,
>>
>> Kinda depends what you are trying to put the footage on top of. If
>> you are trying to put them back on a homogenous white background, you
>> may luck out. I've always treated it like a key, so Keylight or any
>> good keying software will help. Of course, if anyone/thing is wearing
>> white/grey, you'll have to cut holdback mattes. If you luck out and
>> nobody is wearing white, you can feather things a bit and get nice
>> white smiles and bright eyes... overdo it and it gets creepy.
>>
>> Believe it or not, I used to shoot this way on purpose. Worked
>> great... within a VERY limited range. Pretty much unnecessary these
>> days with modern keyers.
>>
>> Ahh, I remember those days... not too fondly. Good Luck!
>>
>> ---
>> Bob
>> ------
>> Robert Griffiths
>> http://www.FireDancer.tv
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Brett Nicoletti wrote:
>>
>>> Hey folks.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to key some footage that was shot over whit (actually
>> kind
>>> of gray). I feel like there's a way to do this nicely using the
>>> Composite Mode pull down menu, but have yet to find the successful
>>> combination of Composite modes for my 2 layers. Does anyone have any
>>> suggestions on how to do this cleanly/efficiently?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brett Nicoletti
>>> www.smile-edit.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
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