Monday, October 26, 2009

Re: [FCP-L] Re: HDV Question

 

Well, I guess I am used to color correcting digibeta captured as 1:1
or Uncompressed, and DVCPRO HD, and HDCAM SR...so much more latitude
with those that when I get to HDV I feel like I have one hand tied
behind my back. ANd no, it doesn't help that the DPs shoot with the
odd 15fps shutter and REALLY shoot blue for night scenes.

And no, the camera tech is not as important as story. But when I see
horrid breakup like that, a LOT, and networks bitched about beta hits
which were not nearly as bad...and the networks sees these and gives
them a pass? Well... seems odd.

But true...when the story is good, who cares what it was shot on?
DEADLIEST CATCH seems to make it work. But that always looks like
home video. Except for the shots of the boats on the water...but that
isn't HDV either. Only the footage from the boats. And
SURVIVORMAN...again, looks like a home movie. Then we have Crank 2
(that I haven't seen)... so who's to say?

I just know that of all the formats I have worked with, this is the
worse of the HD bunch... like DV is to SD.

-shane

On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Patrick Inhofer wrote:

>
>
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Shane Ross wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I am paid. But to COLOR CORRECT that footage. Very little
> > latitude...can't do too much. Even when it is ProRes.
>
> Shane,
>
> It's interesting - I've CCed a few series shot on HDV, including an
> ABC prime time reality-type documentary ("Hopkins").
>
> I've found HDV to be remarkably robust. Much more latitude than DV. I
> used to cringe when I'd hear an incoming project is HDV. No more. I've
> become a big believer in: "It's not the format, it's the shooter."
>
> I think what you're running up against is either a poor camera
> implementation of HDV or this 15fps crap is utterly defeating the
> codec. It's already long-GOP, now you're either reducing the frequency
> of the GOP or introducing blurs that are particularly nasty for any
> long GOP scheme to properly encode.
>
> It doesn't trouble me so much that Discovery considers it acceptable -
> since all they care about is a good story that draws eyeballs. It's
> the producers and shooters who don't care enough about the quality of
> their images that bothers me. While the audience may never glom onto
> what exactly is wrong with the image - their peers will.
>
> Oh well - such is the age of You Tube. One day, quality will count
> again. Let's just hope it doesn't last as long as this Bear Market.
>
> - pi
>
> - -
> Patrick inhofer
> Finisher-in-Chief
> Fini
> http://fini.tv/demo.html
>
>

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