Re: [FCP-L] AJA QTtoDPX and FCP don't agree

As an example. I have a clip that I logged as 1:01, I keep forgetting
that FCP is outpoint inclusive. In the FCP bin it shows as 1:01. In
the Viewer it shows as 1:01 and if I switch to frames it shows as 25.
If I move through the clip one frame at a time I count 25 frames. If
I reveal in finder and open that in QTpro it shows as 1:02 because QT
tends to be sloppy, but close enough. If I move through the clip in
QTpro one frame at a time I count 25 frames. I then open that file in
QTtoDPX and it list it as 48 frames long. ?????? I then Translate
that to a file sequence and sure enough it makes 48 frames of
picture. No frames are duplicated. I know this because I used the
monitor out jacks on the deck so I have a TC burn.

I had noticed this all sometime back and really didn't care at the
time, but now we are trying to use the system to capture material for
a VFX company. They really don't like having to roto and animate on
more frames then required. And it also bumps the cost up a bit. So I
would really like to figure out why the system is doing this.

FCP 6.0.5
QT 7.6
OSX 10.5.5

Thanks,
Jay

On Nov 15, 2009, at 12:38 PM, Rainer Standke wrote:

> When you run into frame rate or duration issues, it's always
> worthwhile to run the clip through Cinema Tool. Conform it to some
> frame rate, and back to the frame rate you need.
>
> Have you tried cleaning up long frames? Tools/Long Frames.
>
> Also, when you switch the FCP TC displays to frames, do you see the
> expected numbers?
>
> This issue seems to point to QuickTime as the culprit. Are you certain
> that OS, QT and FCP are all in versions that work together?
>
> Rainer Standke
> XMiL Workflow Tools
> http://www.xmil.biz
>
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 9:39 , Jay Mahavier wrote:
>
>> When you selectively read just the section that will fit your
>> reasoning it may seem that way. But upon further reading of the
>> entire post you realize that regardless of the duration of the shot
>> that 1 to 3 frames are added to the head of the shot and 22 or 23
>> frames are added to the tail. FCP and QTpro both report the length
>> as
>> expected and logged, but when extracting to a file sequence the
>> number
>> of frame is consistently wrong by anywhere from 23 to 26 frames.
>> Weather the logged shot is 1sec, 5 sec, 10 sec, 2 min, 3:12, 3:12:14,
>> or any other length of shot tried.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Karl Newman wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Jay Mahavier wrote:
>>>
>>> I capture 4:01 that's 4 seconds and 1 frame from a tape. FCP reports
>>> it as 4:01. QTPro reports it as 4:01. That should be 97 frames. I
>>> run it through AJA QT to DPX and I get 120 frames out.
>>>
>>> Something is converting it to 29.97.
>>>
>>> Karl Newman
>>> Karl Newman Productions
>>>
>>> kwnewman@verizon.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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