Thursday, December 10, 2009

RE: [FCP-L] Re: Sony EX1R Post Workflow

The Nanoflash would be an alternative to the KiPro if you need something
other than ProRes

Rupert Watson

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Subject: RE: [FCP-L] Re: Sony EX1R Post Workflow

Shane

If you are going to render to another i-frame codec for editing then why
care if the acquisition codec is long gop mpeg2 of i-frame H.264?

From my experience talking to people who know their compression stuff,
it appears to be generally held that 35Mbps long GOP MPEG2 will be the
same or better quality than the same footage shot at 100Mbps in i-frame
MPEG4. There are some who argue that to get really good looking i-frame
footage you need to go to 220 Mbps (which is a familiar number).

However, from a shooter's pov the fact that a 35Mbps camera uses less
power, records for longer per battery and stores more footage per MB
which can be easily edited natively (or converted to i-frame for longer
form editing) makes it a more attractive choice right about now.

Rupert Watson
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<mailto:FinalCutPro-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Shane Ross
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Subject: Re: [FCP-L] Re: Sony EX1R Post Workflow

A...yes, it shoots 24p. But people also like to shoot for slow motion.

Yeah, AVCI is difficult, but I don't deal with it natively. Either
transcode to ProRes, or to ProRes PROXY to offline, then batch to
ProRes when locked.

The KiPro is cool, but locks you to FCP. Someone contacted me
recently saying that they shot with that exact combination...EX1,
KiPro...with the intention to use the footage in an Avid.

Oops. They got an "F" on their homework assignment for that one.

-shane

On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:34 PM, oliverpetersvidy wrote:

> Shane,
>
> > Shane Ross wrote:
> > By ease of post, I mean working with an I-FRAME format instead of
> > GOP...because you can do things like ...
>
> While I agree in principle, I find that in actual practice I'm OK
> with EX and XDCAM-HD. No need to deal with reverse telecine, because
> the camera is 24p native. Really haven't had much of an issue. When
> you look at something like AVC-Intra, which is very computationally
> intensive, it's a real trade-off. The far more interesting and
> inviting option is to take SDI out of an EX and record to an
> external KiPro as ProRes.
>
> - Oliver
>
>
>

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