Re: [FCP-L] Re: Sony EX1R Post Workflow

Yup...same issue here. But ours was a NIGHTMARE where XDCAM EX was
just one part. We had 9 other formats. But as soon as I changed the
sequence settings away from native XDCAM to ProRes (yes, you have to
render EVERYTHING when you are done), the crashes all but stopped.

Log GOP MPEG on long form is nasty.

IN the end it turned out fine. Went from 4 crashes a day (bringing
back awful flashbacks of Adrenaline days) to 1 every 3 days. We
didn't transcode XDCAM to ProRes...that would take WAY too long. Just
used that sequence setting.

So I am biased towards DVCPRO HD as it is do darn easy to edit...even
on a G4 Powerbook! G5 Tower! That no matter how good XDCAM looks...
dealing with it in post (where I hang my hat) is NOT fun. So when I
am asked what formats/cameras I recommend... DVCPRO HD,
AVCIntra...P2...is always on the top of the list.

-shane

On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Dom Q. Silverio wrote:

> That too is my experience with EX footage with long form editing in
> FCP 6 or 7. Tremendous amount of crashes and longer processing time
> (renders, exports, etc) compared to DVC Pro HD. It requires too much
> memory to process.
>
> Dom Q. Silverio
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:00 PM, r_salsbury
> <synchro@syncretist.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I was gonna just let this go by, but since it's turned to a bigger
> discussion, I'll mention that I've worked at 2 separate facilities
> where XDCAM EX (1080/23.98) footage was a real hassle to work with
> in FCP. Technically, it's just supposed to work as a native editing
> format, but it drove folks a little crazy at both places. FCP 7 is
> much better with it than 6, but for the shows I've been cutting,
> it's not seamless. That translates to half hour or hour long shows.
> >
> > We were seeing lots of green frames, weird sync stuff, crashes way
> more often than normal, and exports both self contained and
> reference took forever. Like, 20 mins for a 30 minute sequence, with
> a huge fibrechannel SAN as the backbone. Drives were not the
> bottleneck.
> >
> > The current series I'm cutting for is shooting with these cameras
> (I think the cheaper one), and after mighty amounts of
> troubleshooting, we decided to transcode EVERYTHING that had been
> shot thus far over to ProRes LT. Things have gotten so much better -
> those self contained exports are down to about 3 or 4 minutes, and
> no crashes.
> >
> > I like the way the footage looks, and would encourage folks to
> check the cameras out, but not without trying to road test a project
> the same size you'll really be working with.
> >
> > I'll also add that the assistants are impressed with how quick we
> can load and integrate new material, even with the step of
> transcoding from XD to ProRes, so there are speed advantages to the
> format apparently.
> >
> > Anyway, my 2 cents.
> >
> >
> > -Robert
> >
> >
> > --- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson
> <davidadodson@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Now we're finally getting to the nut of what I was trying to
> unearth.
> >>
> >> So when shooting with the EX1R's long GOP MPEG2s you have to copy
> the card contents to a drive and THEN transcode/rewrap the material
> to (ProRes?) for cutting?
> >>
> >> And more critically, is this a real-time or longer-than-real time
> process? And if not, how long?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >
> >
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