Friday, October 23, 2009

Re: [FCP-L] Re: HDV Question

 

No...what it is attributed to is the fact that they are shooting with
a 15fps and 8fps "look." They are adjusting the shutter to give a
very unique look to the footage, semi-film like, but with the low
shutter that means actions create great looking motion blurs.
Unfortunately, this increases the possibility of artifacting 10 fold.
Yeah, they know about it, but they won't change the style. But we
also have another series that doesn't do that, and I swear, every time
there is a quick pan or zoom...BOOM, artifact.

And Discovery accepts this.

It is on the tape that way. Not an issue with FCP (which we edit
with). And yes, we capture as ProRes via HD SDI and Kona LHe cards.

-shane

> Wow that has not been my experience at all. Could this point to a
> particular camera and or source deck. I've cut several shows for
> discover ID and many had lots of HDV and delivered on HDCamSR. I
> haven't suffered anything like that. I'm working on Avid not that
> that should make a difference on drop out/hits. Are your HDV sources
> being captured of HDSDI? If your working with native HDV that is
> different from my workflow which involves HDSDI to Avid DNX 145.
>
> --- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Shane Ross <comeback@...> wrote:
> >
> > I deliver two shows a week to Discovery (Investigation Discovery)
> that
> > are shot on HDV. I get a hit every 2 seconds on our recreations.
> > Interviews, with NO movement, fine. But recreations are off the
> > charts. They TOO go through the Discovery QC... but they "forgive"
> > these HDV artifacts, as they know there is nothing to be done.
> >
> > Odd, they never "forgave" beta hits. Always had to spend thousands
> or
> > hundreds fixing those.
> >
> > We output to HDCAM SR.
> >
> > -shane
> >
> > On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:02 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> >
> > > Wow I did 60 half hour episodes on HDV a couple years ago and I
> > > didn't have but two or 3 tape hits for the entire season. I was
> > > quite surprised and happy. These shows went through Discovery
> level
> > > QC so they had to be technically correct. I was using the HVR-1500
> > > which is the only deck to use for HDV unless you are dealing with
> > > the newer native progressive stuff. I guess the offline guys might
> > > have avoided shots with drop outs but that's usually not the case
> > > these days. I get shots all the time that are just plain wrong
> with
> > > iris shifts etc... that should have never been used so I doubt
> that
> > > series was any different. I was more surprised than anyone that
> the
> > > format worked so painlessly. I'm not debating image quality here
> > > just technical drop outs etc... It beat the heck out of fixing all
> > > the long interval drop outs from BetaSP from my experience.
> > >
> > > --- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Shane Ross <comeback@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, well, acceptable by some networks. Which is bad because
> the
> > > hits
> > > > I see on GDV put hits on betasp tapes to shame. I have been
> forced
> > > to
> > > > work with it for nearly a year. Even converted to prores doesn't
> > > help.
> > > > The damage has already been done.
> > > >
> > > > Shane
> > > >
> > > > Scent frum my iFone.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Oct 22, 2009, at 6:23 AM, tcurren <tcurren@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Oct 22, 2009, at 5:23:14 AM, Pat wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > HDV is suitable for acquisition
> > > > > That's debatable. Crappy format if ever there was one. :-(
> > > > > --
> > > > > Terence Curren
> > > > > Burbank, CA
> > > > > www.alphadogs.tv
> > > > > www.digitalservicestation.com
> > > > >
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