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--- In FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Cook <jeff@...> wrote:
>
> But I should clarify the purpose of this stripped down in-line scope
> displayer I'm waiting for. It literally does not need to be part of
> the main signal path. It only needs to be calibratable to timeline
> bars coming out of any orifice of an edit system or tape deck, or even
> looped through any device, so then allowing a check of basic wfm and
> vscope signal levels against that calibration. Nothing else, REALLY.
> It should be astoundingly simple to make and sell, clearly not viable
> as a flagship profit maker, but would improve the product of thousands
> of small edit systems that are spitting out product everyday.
>
> --
> Jeff Cook
> jeff@...
> CookStudios.com
> 703-980-1104 (cell)
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...>
> wrote:
>
> > $200 is an absolutely crazy price.
> >
> > Heck, I could sell a ton of Final Cut systems if - including the
> > computer - they were only $200.
> >
> > The Ultrascope is the cheapest scope I've seen. A competitor would be
> > the ScopeBox which operates on a Mac, but needs a 3rd party video
> > card.
> >
> > I could see ScopeBox software dropping to $200, but you still need
> > hardware ... and hardware costs money. (So does software, for that
> > matter, but hardware has hard costs associated with each unit sold)
> >
> > BlackMagic is essentially probably giving the software away for the
> > Ultrascope in order to sell the $700 worth of input hardware.
> >
> > Basically, this is what Apple does with Final Cut. A cheap editing
> > solution that you have to buy increasingly more powerfull and
> > expensive computers to be able to run. Is FCS3 really $995? No. I just
> > bought a new computer to be able to run it and the whole system is
> > closer to $11,000. So if Apple can get a large number of people to buy
> > five or six thousand dollars of its hardware every couple of years in
> > order to run the latest software, then that software is subsidized to
> > some extent by hardware. They may not run it that way on their
> > corporate books, but $995 for the amount of software packaged in FCS
> > would not be possible if they let it run on vanilla PCs. But I
> > digress.
> >
> > You are never going to see a 200 dollar standalone wave/vector box.
> >
> > If I had to guess at the cheapest you could possibly do this, I'd say
> > $1,400, but it will probably be closer to 10x your "blue sky" request:
> > $2,000. Tektronix's cheapest is $5,000.
> > Devices that can capture HD-SDI or SDI video are all about $700 to
> > $1000 at the LOW end. You still need to add software to that and an
> > operating system and operating hardware (motherboard, etc.)
> >
> >
> > On Nov 13, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Jeff Cook wrote:
> >
> >> Any idea when, where, and who might put out a simple $200 in-line box
> >> that has NOTHING but waveform and vectorscope displaying on an
> >> external monitor? I'm guessing there's not enough profit in it, but
> >> it
> >> would instantly upgrade most of the thrown-together edit rooms in the
> >> world and I could sell 30 of them in a week...including one to keep
> >> in
> >> my pocket.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeff Cook
> >> jeff@...
> >> CookStudios.com
> >> 703-980-1104 (cell)
> >>
> >> On Nov 13, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Torrey Loomis <torrey@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I really like Torrey's idea of a rackmountable PC with the
> >>>> Ultrascope card and "home built" PC all in one. The whole point of
> >>>> the Ultrascope is that it's cheap, so as long as Torrey can keep
> >>>> the costs for the rest of the system down, it will be the cheapest
> >>>> HD scope solution available.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That is exactly what we've tried to do with this.
> >>>
> >>> Its not going to be the absolute cheapest system around because the
> >>> 2U system requires a half-size motherboard with a butterfly
> >>> backplane. I'll be frank that it could be cheaper with a bare bones
> >>> tower, but that isn't the solution we wanted. We wanted to avoid
> >>> towers entirely, and we didn't want a 3U or 4U tower either--we
> >>> really wanted it to be 2U.
> >>>
> >>> It should be a lot cheaper than a Leader 7700--and much more
> >> elegant.
> >>>
> >>> Torrey
> >>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>> Torrey Loomis
> >>> President & CEO - Silverado Systems, Inc.
> >>> (916) 760-0032 • FAX (916) 404-5258
> >>> torrey@...
> >>> http://www.Silverado.cc
> >>>
> >>> Silverado Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/silveradosys
> >>> StudioBuilder blog at http://silveradosys.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>>
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